Frazzled UBM,
Your story is the same as mine. By any chance, do you live in Los Angleles area. I need to vent with someone in person
never a jw
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Quick Poll - How many are...
by mrhhome inhow many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.
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Quick Poll - How many are...
by mrhhome inhow many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.
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never a jw
never a witness, but brothers, wife, mother-in-law, brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, lots of nephews and nieces, dogs still in the truth
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The 144,000 and the Great Crowd of Revelation
by Leolaia in8-11; ch.
as in ch.
like the "great crowd", they are "of every race, language, people, and nation (cf.
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never a jw
I imagine Leolaia being told by a chauvinistic, window-washer elder how to interpret the Bible. Utterly ridiculous!! And yet some elders do believe they know better than women just by virtue of their sex.
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WTS admits (indirectly) decreasing in U.S. publisher ratio to population
by Gayle inservice year reports:.
2010 - 1/259.
so, the wts is not keeping up with the u.s. population (and they know it), though it rants about increasing pubs., etc..
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never a jw
Spanish congregations, according to my experience here in California, are stagnant. The big surges hapenned in the 90's. Now the congregations gain one and lose one.
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A JW apologist writes about VAT 4956
by VM44 ina jw wrote the following in an attempt to discredit the evidence provided by vat 4956. comments on the author's logic would be appreciated.
does vat 4956 prove 587?.
many point to vat 4956 as proof that jerusalem was desolated in 587bce.
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never a jw
Whoever wrote the copy of VAT4956 did not have the tools as we do (computers and a vast array of information regarding planetary and lunar motion) to falsify something that fits so well into a year, year 568/567 BCE. Lots of things can be falsified and you can get away with it. But a fit for a particular year of astronomical data (about 36 discernible observations) can not be falsified or made up unless you have the technological advances of modern times. No way Jose. The planets and the moon will not allow lying or fabrications. They are unforgiving, unless you believe God can suspend or modified the motion of the celestial spheres, thus violating his own laws, to accomodate to whatever he wants. JW's leaders do exactly that. They interpret Bible and secular data to fit their beliefs. They don't adjust their beliefs according to facts and evidence
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I love OUTLAW
by losingit inwhenever he responds to a topic, i just have to laugh out loud!
i love the visuals-- they are very much to the point.
even with serious topics, when outlaw shows up to contribute, i smile, chuckle, giggle, or let it all out!
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never a jw
Just got reminded of the windowless kingdom hall full of window washers, which was posted right after another funny comment. He is definitely talented and very much needed here. Few of us would be in anger management sessions if it weren't for outlaw's funny visuals. Thank you OUTLAW. Don't do as Leolaia did. I miss that lady so much. I couldn't take another loss like that.
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The December 2013 study WT is up at JW.org
by Mickey mouse inhttp://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&issue=20131215&output=html&pub=w&langwritten=e.
here's one extract:.
9. why should we be on guard if someone begins to speculate or to speak critically?.
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Interstingly in page 16 the WT makes a review through questions of the latest doctrines and advice, which pretty much are the article that have been discussed here. The WT wants to make sure that R&F reallly remembers and understands. Have they done tha before?
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Help from the resourceful members of this site
by never a jw infor a while i have been curious about the specific contents of the pages that the wt (bible students) were ordered to remove from the "finished mystery" by the u.s. government.. anyone knows where i can get those pages?.
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never a jw
THank you Ann and Newly Enlightened,
I just discovered your last comment after 6 months of my posting this thread. It is a HUGE resouce. No kidding!
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TRUTH BE TOLD - new film on JWs previewing tomorrow night (Thursday) at Laemmle's in Los Angeles!
by Dogpatch insept. 12th (tomorrow night) in los angeles right by the freeway - 405 and santa monica blvd.. i'll be there!.
well the link is also here:.
gregorio smith is an independent filmmaker and writer.
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never a jw
Yeah, I was thnking about those magazine titles. I speculate that they want to avoid any possibility of a dispute over copyrights infringement or something of that nature.
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DECEMBER 15 WT UP ON jw.org
by St George of England inthere has been some speculation over the last weeks about this issue.. well it's up tonight, only large print so far though.. george.
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never a jw
In that same country, a building project was scheduled for a much needed Kingdom Hall.
The local brothers and sisters wanted to assist. However, the project was to be undertaken in
the middle of their planting season. Still determined to have a share, they worked on the
Kingdom Hall project during the day and then went into the fields in the evening to make sure
that they got their crops planted. What a selfsacrificing spirit!
The paragraph above is from the Watchtower of Dec 2013. What bothered me is the abuses of the Watchtower that decides to make projects according to its own convenience and despite the trouble it creates for the very people who make the greatest contribution and is most needy. What an abusive, callous, inconsiderate "spirit-guided" organization!